Sorry Mike, my apologies. I guess I took your original post to mean that you will never run into the scenerio that savedbygrace mentioned if you use the broadheads that you use which seemed to discredit my post in which you quoted me. I just wanted to mention that he was using one of the most reliable and tested heads out there. The results that he had was not common, but not all that rare either. In any case I guess it came out wrong after rereading my post. My apologies.