Well it's quite aparent that you and some others know exactly what you're talking about. I personally have never hunted Idaho. My friends father used to hunt quite a bit out there. So I'm guessing he's just going off of what the old man has told him. I guess now I'm kinda having second thoughts. I really don't want to invest that kind of time and money if I might stand the chance of not even seeing an elk. Show me a few and I'll be happy. Gimme a shot at one even happier. Wow, I guess for now I need to talk to my hunting partner and see if we can maybe get the out of state tags (areas) that are already purchased changed or something. I don't know. Little leary right now. I really want to harvest an elk (love the meat) whether it be a bull or a cow. Can I do that shoot a bull or a cow? Just another question I just thought of. Also, we're thinking about grabbing some mule deer tags while we're there. How's that hunting? My dad hunted them when we lived in southern AZ. Didn't seem to be to bad of a hunt. Once again probably a totally different hunt.