Whittingham is bad either, however the last time I hunted there someone shot at me. I shot at a deer in at the bottom of a ravine and some moron shot over my head and starting yelling at me. My buddy saw him and he wasn't wearing orange, about 30 feet in a tree stand, and on top of a ravine 3 over. Sad thing is, I hit the deer, but was afraid to track it. A lot of deer though.