Standingpipe, Arthur P has a very good point, as well as BobCo19-65, I agree with him, like I said in my E-mail to you I don't like a hip quiver but a lot of gus do. One thing I'll add is this spring you could buy a hip quiver and try it out, while you hike and scout around your home. I might have to just come join you, we could stump shoot together, its a lot of fun and great practice. Also there are plenty of Rock Chucks to practice on as well. Nothing beats a real live target for actual experience. On the plus side of that is when you are shooting at them you are shooting almost strait up or down hill. Not much in between, but I am sure you already are finding that out from the mountains around your home.