I am amazed by the accuracy out of these guns...I got a new thumbhole/fluted stainless barrel omega a couple weeks ago and sighted it in yesterday with 100 grains pyrodex pellets and 200 gr shockwaves. At 100 yards, I was getting 5/8" groups or better consistently without swabbing. I guess I just wanted to brag and see what kind of groups everyone else is getting with what loads...