I agree, can't have it both ways. Funny, I go to many banquets and most all the tickets are folded, so it levels the playing field. It gets real dicy if the buckets are not handled properly, or they have someone drawing tickets that shouldn't be. People get hot over that. I heard some crazy stories from all over, other orgs, and it gets interesting. I also agree, if there is something funny going on, word of mouth will kill things quicker than a 12ga.