The tree I used to hunt out of gun season was sitting at such an angle I had to use the back side of the tree and turn around and be twisted when I shot...if they came out right behind me..I knew I was gonna get belted.....with that being said I have watched 3 deer fall at the same time on a few occasions due to being dizzy after getting whacked!!! Thankfully I never got cut (bad)...however it was the perfect tree and i could stand it...lol.