tho Pat you must know and see yourself how heavily biased this forum has become,
Kevin, is Bowtech or it's shooters suppose to appologize for winning over their fan base?
-- we used to be able to discuss equipment objectively with no issues as we all
Do you feel you do this now? Considering most of the posters here don't have a vested interest in a company wouldn't they be less bias than someone who does?
.. I find it incredibly sad that there are no places anymore where we can all go to discuss the technical side of products freely and objectively without all of the BS of name brand loyalty.(yes, including Merlin!)
That was the point of my original post. It's seems that when you see someone touting the virtues of Bowtech that we are being biased but when you or someone else touts the virtues of Merlin, they are being objective
I speak with some very regularly, and to a man they are just sick of being attacked whenever they themselves ask a question or respond technically.(ask GRIV about that Pat) Everyone thinks that because we are Pros or work within the industry, that we have no right to learn anymore or comment on other products and I for one don't believe that is right--
Maybe, that has something to do with the way they do it. However, the overall theme of your posts seems to be that there are only a select few that are qualified to chime in on a "technical forum as if it were supposed to be reserved for industry pros. You seem to discount the fact that there are some extremely knowledgeable individuals here that don't work in the industry.
when we do ask or comment, and can do so without having to defend ourselves and our questions/viewpoints at every turn, we can thus all bring the industry forward to build better products
Point in case. Very few of the experts agree on every aspect of archery equipment and each of them that I have encountered appear to make no room for the opinions of others. They seem to be convinced that "their way" is the right way and the only way and everyone else is a pion that lives in the dark. It's is possible to express your views while be diplomatic about it and avoiding being argumentative as opposed to jumping in on a thread in what appeared to be an attacking fashion.
Everyone wants to know the details on how this system ticks, it's quirks and it's technical attributes--just so happened I was the one that asked for tech comparasons and gave examples for debate first. ( and of course immediately got flamed for it, LOL)
The debates and questions are a wonderful thing and desperately needed for the industries sake but again there is a better way to go about it. You didn't get "flamed" for having an opinion you got "flamed" for the manner in which it is presented.
But as I said I don't believe hype, I believe technical data and my own eyes, along with people I've come to know and trust over the years. I will continue with my testing, and I look forward to others' conclusions and especially Norb Mullaneys' Technical review if he is able to test it. Because----It's all in the data my friends......
As well you should however your argument against the Bowtech faithful rings in this statement. One wonders if someone that is so brand loyal and has a vested interest can ever truely give another bow cam etc. it's just deserve?
Finally, is it really all in the data? To most achers, myself included, all of the high end equipment on the market is going to shoot better than we can. It really isn't rocket science. We tend to make mountains out of mole hills. If I like the way it draws and I like the way it shoots and i can kill deer with it consistently and shoot a decent 3D score with it if I so choose then thats all that I can ask. Does everyone agree that all of the top line bows on the market will do this? I personally don't need Norm Mulaney to tell me whether I like a bow or not.
