Arthur, I wouldn't say you're flinging logs now, but you still have almost 100 grains on me. Then again you have almost an extra 6 inches of arrow as well.

Stealth, I have seen that marble/feather trick in one of my high school classes. Too bad there's no deer on the moon, we could shoot them from 80 yards and not worry about penetration.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>