<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The problem with the pine needle example is nobody has the video to prove how many of the little guys bounced off the pole before one got stuck right in there. Kind of the way I feel about carbons.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

The problem with this example as I see it, is the extreme between the two. Super lightweight items do not react to force the same way. Drop a bowling ball and a golf ball from a ten story building and they both hit the ground at the same time. Now drop a ping pong ball and see how much slower it goes. Also, the blunt tip of a 2x4 compared to the pointed tip of a pine needle are difficult to compare.

A 400 grain arrow and a 600 grain arrow are not that much different. One is 50% heavier, not 50,000% heavier. In my opinion, this example doesn't demonstrate anything other than both are capable of being stuck into a telephone pole when propelled by a tornado. Now, if you could take a closer look, I'll bet the bigger the pine needle, the better the chance of it sticking in the pole.