Maybe I missed it but did anyone say the E cam system was better than the conventional hybrids? Were some of the earlier posters implying that they are inferior? Or were they just saying the like the E cam? Pinwheel you seem to be hyper sensitive about this issue. You seem to take personal offense to the fact that several people here like Bowtech and the new cam system. You mentioned "objective" testing and "non-biased" testing but in the position you are in are we suppose to believe that you aren't biased. I respect your knowledge and opinion and the time you have put in to gain said knowledge but I will be perfectly honest, as long as you are associated with Merlin, I won't buy one. I am sure you are technically savy. But to listen to you, you are the only technically savy person on the face of the earth. Or at the very least the only one qualified to make such observations. If you think that you do yourself or your company a service by taking shots at your competitors or by portraying yourself as the only one smart enough to know what a real bow is, then you are sadly mistaken. You seem to think you can force people to believe the same way that you do. But you can't. You would get much further by being a little more gracious and acknowledging the fact that the other manufactuers also make quality equipment and then humbly explaining the benefits of your companies when asked. JMO