amosgreg, I understand what you are saying about shot placement, and if you ask me what is more important, shot placement or KE, I would undoubtedly say shot placement.

I guess the point of my topic is that I have been hearing so much about KE lately as it pertains to penetration, and I think that people are getting a little off track in believing the PE = penetration. What I'd like to hear are the other factors that pertain to pentetration. I don't think that you could say that KE does not apply to it because speed and weight are factors in penetration IMO, but there are many other factors.

Slo-Bo, yes, I do shoot traditional and it is my passion, I also shoot compound. I shoot a 58 pound recurve with 700 grain arrows, 31.5 draw. So, I'm putting out about 50 pounds of KE. I also use 145 grain Stos (made by magnus) two bladed cut on contact heads (I use the same heads for both trad and compound). With my trad setup, I will only shoot at deer up to 20 yards, with the compound, 30 yards max. Is penetration a problem in traditional, no. But, as amosgreg has stated, shot placement is.

Edited by - BobCo19-65 on 08/14/2002 09:36:54