yes, tnhunter16, I dropped them dead! atta boy, ridge runner. Be honest, it is the way to be. But no, I dont go around shooting at fleeing birds. where I go it is very hilly and has alot of ravines. I sneek quietly up to the ravine and peer over, and sometimes there will be a jake or 2, down there scratching around a stream. When they come up to flush, they get smoked! But, I really love it when they come in gobblin! But there has been alot of arguing, if it can be done. I am here to tell you it can! But, if you cant shoot well, dont try it!