dochendrix, I swithched to Magnus stingers at the end of the season and harvested two deer with them. I shot a nice nine point buck while hunting North Carolina this year. It was about 35 -37 yards and a slight quartering away shot. The arrow broke a rib and exited the off shoulder with a complete pass through. The buck piled up less then 30 yards away. The broadhead showed no signs of damage other then needing to be re-sharpend. They fly very true out of my Outback (may do even better out of a Bowtech). I will be using them exclusively next year.