lol hikchick that was kinda my point is if you hit bam dwon if you miss they live . no wa intended but you shouldn't have to come back for an animal two days later whats the point meat is ruined is it for a matter of fact i got wha i shot at that point what is the point of hunting you can't feed any body you might be able to ware it but what a wast. a hundred years ago that would not be the case nothin of the animal would be wasted/ can your hubby say that about 27 years of hunting probly not don't get me wrong i am looking forward to my first hunt just would like to do it right kinda like i saw 40 elk go almost through my back yard i was in such aw that i didn't even think about grabbing my rifle watched em for an hour trying to think how can i get in thee and get a shot . well i wil get em next year i will be elk less for two seasons this year. but i am still hopefull till jan 31st end of my season .but thanx for the info though