get yourself a pair of pantyhose and cut a piece off. then get some chickenlivers and wrap the piece of pantyhose around it then put it on a big treble hook. the pantyhose keeps the bait on and the oils of the bait will soak through the pantyhose. thats how we catch some monster blue cats on the rapahanok. shrimp seems to work good as well but theres nothing like the chicken livers.