Well here goes a big can of worms[8D],,,,, I do have remington shotguns and never had a problem with them BUT, here it goes,,,,,,,[:@] I will not buy another remington! Here is why. I teach shooting sports program (archery and shotgun) and also a hunter ed instructor. Remington is big into hunter ed, so i called remington to see if they could help me out with getting the shotgun club started. I was not asking for free guns just alittle help (discount). This just blew me out of the water[:@][:'(] this is a quote " SIR WE DO NOT NEED YOU" [:@][&o]. So I called MOSSBERG and after talking with them, MOSSBERG accepted the club in the FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY PROGRAM!!!!!! ,,I can`t wait to send a picture to REMINGTON with all the kids holding MOSSBERG shotguns and write a little note back saying you are right you dont need me!!!! So guys i have to take care of the ones who help me out and the kids out......SO PUT ME DOWN FOR MOSSBERG!!!!!!