BT still stand behind what I say. You can not take money from outside sources and try to hide where it came from. The PGC has been less than honest with the hunting faction in PA for far to long. We have the right to know what goes on and if they feel that outside money is to be used then explain why or dont do it. Why should the PGC allow money from those who want less or more for that matter of something to be used? I hear what you say about the timber cos. and such yes it could conceviably happen but taking outside funding to foot the bills and fund studies still isnt right. Dr. Alt and the pgc have done more to divide the ranks of hunters the past 4 years than any non hunting organization out there. I for one feel thats just plain wrong. Will everyone agree with deer management not in my lifetime or even maybe my kids but we are at the point where our ranks are being divided more and more and we dont need it. As for my syance on it dont feel AR was needed and as for HR fine in areas that needed it. As of yet there hasnr\t been much tweaking on anything as was stated there would be. The only things I have seen are allowing AR in sra which imho is asinine. The PGC admits to not being able to control the herd in them yet by adding more deer to mix is counter productive. The wmus need to be refined more to start getting the areas that need more reduction better defined. The hard thing with that is most of those areas are in private hands and as such wont be easy to do.