Hey oldelk, I believe ya. Sort of. I believe the deer you shot, did go down, but sure wouldn't say its the rule. I mean, what would you say if you tried it and it performed very poorly? You would report it as I and others have. Sure, I gave up on that very promply. Maybe didn't give it a chance. But your only one of a few that I know had it work worth a darn. And also, most 00 shooters I have seen, are jump shooters. Which I really don't respect as hunting. Nothing wrong with gettin gyour table fair. But I would rather hunt the deer. Usually I notice this type of hunting, you can really tear up a deer. Now I don't mind tearing up a shoulder. Thats for sure. But tearing up the precious backstrap is out of the question for me at least.