thats fine and all good points but if a state is having deer population problems then what sence does it make to shoot immature animals that have never had the chance to reproduce? do you think when the numbers get so low that the state is just going to ship in a bunch more just for people to shoot? doubt it. what it boils down to is managing the numbers correctly and shooting immature animals is not the way to do that. i have been managing deer on my land for some time now and it takes longer then you think to get the quality and keep the quality and it takes no time at all to wipe them out either. and as far as a youth going out and killing any deer they want really who cares if they do. the youth hunts are not whats going to hurt the population. its the ones shooting everything that walks by. if a kid shoots a spike their first time out then that is a memory of a lifetime and that is awesome. but an adult whos been hunting for years out there mowin them down doesnt help your population at all. but like i said before good luck to pa cause it will surely get worse before it gets better. there are more people concerned with shooting the deer of their choice and not enough concerned with management.