This does apear to be a more of a bowtech forum over other bows, I guess that's fine, I myself would choose a mathews over a bowtech. Ther basic look about bowtech and lots of other bows out there look just like mathews who was the one who came out with that look, mathews was ,parrellel limbs, the look of the risers,solocams. It seems to me that mathews was the ones who came out with all this great technology. I have shot bowtech even the new liberty, ya it felt good but not any better than a new mathews. I think alot of you are comparing your brand new bowtechs to 5 or 6 year old mathews like a Q2 or something. Try shooting a new mathews with string suppresors I love em. And as far as speed, look at the charts and bowtechs are not any faster than mathews and espicially not the black max2 wich has been around for years wich has harmonic dampening and string suppressors.