Jersey Jim you hit the nail on the head. 50 % of the guys on this board disagree with you but 90 % of the guys in the field agree with you. I say those trophy hunters are really anti hunters in disguise. They want to degrade your experience in the woods. They say what is the difference between a doe and a young buck. I say what is the different between a young buck and an older buck. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.