Rob: in your post you said you'd love to hunt where bucks aren't killing themselves trying to breed all the does because there isn't enough bucks:

Could it be there aren't enough Does?

Alsoyou mentioned you ran yourself out supporting Alt;

I hate to tell you but you allied yourself to a falling star from the get go. he had SOME sound ideas I'll grant him that . I like the AR but we really aren't saving that many more bucks under it that we need to make room for them by cutting doe numbers so drastically an hunters saw right thru that. he made his mistake in trying to sell HR by using AR rather than telling hunters we needed smaller WMUs to be able to manage each WMU for the amount of deer the habitat would support. Then proving his theroy by plotting the habitat in those smaller WMUsthe way the timber companies do.