Rach,

I don't think you are stirring the pot. I guess my point is this. Labs and pointers are distinctly different breeds. If a lab can point, fine, but in all other aspects it is still a labrador. Pointers have been bred for hundreds of years for all aspects of their required tasks, as have retrievers. There IS a huge mental, personality, whatever difference between the breeds, and to pretend it does not exist is just not fair. If a guy really wants a pointing dog because he likes pointing dogs, steering him to a PL is just not being accurate in my opinion, because he is going to get a labrador that points, not a pointer in other aspects. There IS a difference, it does not make one breed better, just different. I think that is where the negativity about the PL come from. Guys will not acknowledge that there is more to being a pointer than just pointing. I mean, Angelina Jolie is a lot different from Jessica Simpson, but I sure would not turn down a date with either of them.