Thanks Chad, I'll look into that video. I shoot a high wrist, which took forever to get used to and just now is starting to feel comfortable. I was also snap shooting, for lack of a better term as Asbell also states you should release as soon as you come to anchor and I think that was hurting me also. I've recently met a local shop owner who shoots traditional and has a traditional league once a week which I'm going to start attending. I was shooting in his shop and he wanted to try my bow and I watched in awe as he put 7 arrows, all touching in the X at 20 yards. First thing I noticed was that he came to full draw and settled in prior to releasing. I thought anybody who can pick up a bow he's never touched and do that must know something so I've been settling in a little more and that has also helped. I didn't want to develop bad habits and Asbell was so adament about all of his points I tried to duplicate it and ended up fairly frustrated.