Yeah! You all are winning me over. The Steiner Predators were $225 and if I look through them at dawn or dusk it is actually darker than without bino's. It also seems that no matter how I focus them and roll the fine focus cup, they are not quite clear. The Nikons eye cups both came unglued about the 3rd day I had them and Nikon would not replace them.

Thanks for the info and opinions. As soon as I get through with dropping some cash at the NWTF banquet, I am going to order a pair. Hotbuyselectronics.com has them for
$409.00. Lowest I can find by far. If you all know who can beat that I'd like to know.

Thanks again! Big help!