RE: ice with and plink around need a good pistal cal
Recommend a 357Mag. revolver. With a good 357 revolver you can shoot both 38Special, the +P's, and 357Magnum ammo. Everything from target wadcutters to 180gr.JHP 357's for deer hunting. Ammo can be pretty inexpensive too. And, with
several 357 loads, you can do a lot of "damage".
Take a look at the Ruger GP100 series of revolvers - built like tanks. Reliable, accurate,
and DURABLE.