Thanks, I am not 100% sure but that could be what I'm looking at. I also need to find out if the deer prefer the pin oak acorns or something other that I need to look for.

I'll check out the book link. Maybe I can web order it. Not off anti hunting/gun amazon though. I'm about 1.5 hours from any type of book store.

BTW what exactly is a crabapple?? Is there another or different name? Its not a bois d arc by chance?

Thanks again, Jeff