Ive been shooting for about a month with a cheep yards sale bow and I am pretty good out to twenty five yards. i seam pretty easy to me but it is a low lbs bow 45@28 i HAVE A NEW CHEK-MATE ON ORDER that is 60 at 28 for hunting elk. to me I think it just adds the element of the hunt that is lost with modern bows. Its what archery is suppose to be in my opinion. Compounds just seam to be like a rifle to me. I guess I am out of the how many can i get stage. I am not knocking Compounds I think its just time to get back to basics for me. also here in oregon they have traditional only areas. IE recurve or long bows only and rifle season is only side lock muzzle loader. no inline scoped stuff that you see on all the hunting shows. but that another thread.