My Hawkins flintlock is one of the old ones. So old infact I had to send it back in for the newer model hammer and frizzen. It is a good roundball shooter and will shoot ball-ets excellent.

My two old Renegades are the old models also. They will not shoot a sabot to save their life. At least I have not found one, and I have very few sabots in .54 caliber to try in them.