Last year I got the Viper Extreme XL and after using it for the year love it I checked out almost all the climbers out there and decided on this one. I was never as comfortable as I was in it they,climb very quit and are easy to pack in and out.One thing I will tell you is wear the full body harness that they provide with each stand. I found myself more than once nodding while in the tree. mine has the added flip out foot rest and it is so nice. I will say this if you get a summit you will have a great stand.One thing what ever stand you get Practice practice and BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!