Jaydog,we don't have the option of mail ordering a muzzleloader in NY.I have a TC SS Omega with the laminated stock.It is an awesome gun.It might be worth a trip to the Harlem Gun Center in Buffalo to buy a new muzzleloader.They are very informative and they beat everybody else by $80 on my Omega.They have just about any muzzleloader you could want there and you can pick them up and feel what they are like.It depends on what you want the gun to do on what you buy.If it is strictly for blackpowder hunting then I would go with an Omega.If you want to be able to switch barrels and use it for other forms of hunting,then I would get and Encore.Either way,they are great guns and are backed by the TC guarantee.