May I point out this is just trying to appease as many little special interest groups....which is what Alt tried. His efforts to appease the Pa Farm bureau, the foresters, yucky rack hunters, youth hunters, guys in the military only home for one weekend, qdm fad followers, bird watchers, lease owners, DCNR.....etc etc etc is how we ended up with this watered down medicore deer plan of today.

Thats what happens when you try to please everyone....in the end you end up making no one happy.

You guys are just proposing more of the same...

Face up to the facts. At one time the state did cater to traditionla hunters who were hung up on the fetish of big racks. Most pa hunters were happy to harvest any available buck, those who were not waited until a bigger one came by. The reason we now have a problem is that hunters are no longer satisfied with thier traditional role of merely harvesting the surplus population and going home and eating it.

They now are caught up in fast food drive thru style "supersize" management. Where a buck isn't worth harvesting unless its a "biggie size" 8 point with at least a 16" spread or they don't want it. Gag!!

They want whitetails farmed for them. Raised in pa until big enough to shoot over artificial food plots grown just to get a deer fat enough for a taxidermist. Yuck! makes me sick to think pa is about one step away from just raising deer in pens until they are 10points that score a minmum P&Y before being released for hunters like pheasants.... [:'(]

You can't make everyone in pa happy. Pick who its gonna be. The quality QDM fad, or the quantity happy traditional hunters and go with one....because you cannot please both in pa.

I hate how pa has taken the shallow approach of trying to appease every group, its used to be that most in pa were traditional hunters. Sadly they are not anymore, many want the "bigger better deal" like they see on TV fad hunting shows. Many think QDM will create big Saskatewan booner bucks, yet to do so means cutting numbers so low that hunters will walk away from the sport rather than stick with hunting Pa patheticly small fad herd. It has created a big rift in the pa hunting community, and will probably never heal.

We are going to end up trying to please everyone, and in the end we will please no one....