cayugad, I saw your post on the Bushnell Community post on powder and shot equivalents. I checked this out with my powder measurer, and I don't believe this is not enough shot. Ex: 100 grains powder=1 3/8 oz. of shot. I am shooting the Knight plastic shot cups, which hold over 2 ounces of shot. I tried 2 oz. of #5's, with 100 grains of 777 fffg. It throws a pretty decent pattern out to 40 yards. Knight does not give any specific loads to use, so I thought i would get other shotgunners opions. Let me know if you come up with anything, Thanks........