I really like the Vanguard. I hate the Mark five. I had a couple and they were awful. Really bad triggers only so so accuracy. I would not trade anything I own straight across for the big money model. I would rather have a Savage or even a 710 Remington. I am sour on them Big Time. When you lay out the kind of money that they get for the Mark five, I expect a lot more gun than I got.