Briman thats all good to know im gonna have it out over the phone with that gun smith lol he probably puts hoppes #9 in a wrag to huff on it he did seem like the lights were but nobody was home lol then take my slug barrel to another gunsmith its a 24 inch rifled slug barrel with rifle sights I want it down to 20 inches im trying to make a light weight slug gun for close range use ( for shots 50 yards or less) A buddy of mine wants to do a handgun mountain lion hunt and im wanting to make a good back up gun that ill be carrying I want it to be quick swinging and not berdan to carry all day long in some of the roughest mountain terrain in the southwest.