RE: Hca Brute Force
I shoot one and love it! Little handshock (w/limbsavers), light,very forgiving, and screaming fast!!!!! I got mine for about $280 on e-bay, new. The patriots I've looked at are going to run you somewhere between $650 - $700. It was VERY sweet to shoot but a little to heavy for my tastes and types of hunting. the Pro 38 was a GREAT bow to shoot though!