22 shorts? Smokepole blowing smoke up you know where!

Anyway fine I am done with this conversation...

If you guys want to hunt deer with varmint cartridges thats your choice.

By the way USMC isn't the military adopting a more potent round. Obviously they have decided that the .223 isn't as good as you make it out to be.

Anyway I will say it again. The .243 is the minimum deer cartridge... And by minimum I think it is a fine deer cartridge.

I think we are all missing the point here... the .223 is definately not an ideal deer hunting cartridge, so why hunt with it!?!? You can buy a gun chambered in a suitable deer caliber for less than $200.