As i read the pgs. of post replies i really wonder how people get so opinionated! A guy says you wouldn't use a bb gun or 22 s or l to harvest a deer! i would say that a bb gun is out of its element. Now we have abit of fun! I am not a young man anymore and so being i have done some odd hunting practise. such as i have harvested 7or 8 deer with a 22 shorts while squirrel hunting. I never pass up food on the table the Lord sets in front of me! I have taken them with a 410 a 22 Hornet a 222 a 22/250 & so on. The fact is if you can make a clean shot and know your rifle, shotgun, ML or bow do it!