woody- as i said gun + scope out the door 389$ and your talking a 600$ scope ????? have you used a bushnell elite?? i have a leupold- and will use either gun- but i wont spend the money to by another leu after using others that work just as well on light gathering--at a fraction of the cost

HE SAID HE DIDNT WANT TO BREAK THE BANK---can ya hear me now???
damn i only got 4 more cent on this subject then i am outta money- for the subject

weatherby was just an example i could have used any expensive gun, benelli whatever-- you said it" a more expensive gun does not make you a better shooter"-nor does an expensive scope-- hey i got an idea how about matching the value of the gun to the value of the scope and vice versa-- what a concept

sounds like putting a rolls royce front end on a VW--- its still a VW

ps stubble i own a tikka- great gun thanks for the .02

i also have a jason scope,redfield and god forebid-- a tasco[]