red....sorry to get on ya like that it just looked to much like a lot of forum clowns that go that route on a guy for just asking a question and they thinks it a right to belittle people....in reality there just well i'll leave it to your imagenation....once again sorry....atleast ya said something and not got grumpy bout it....i just work at wal-mart cause it's an inside job at night with 3 nights off and 34 hours to boot with no more ditch jobs and 24 plowing days on x-mas and me gots all the time to be out in the woods for hunting....with flintlock opener on monday for 3 weeks..........................bob