newguy23 ok i have thought about all of this and i think i was too hard on you. and for that i am sorry! I think you might be right i cant remember ever seeing kids at the range other than mine that where shooting with open sights. even 22s, and bb guns where scoped. maybe a lot of kids now days havent used open sights i dont know. all i know is that my son has never used a scope. he has scopes and he wants to use them but i refuse to put one on any of his guns intell he has mastered open sights. that was the way i was raised and i agree with it. but if your freinds are hunting with open sights they should be practiceing with them and they should know what distance they cant hit there target. and not shoot over that distance.