so, deadeer? i think 800,000 doe premits is about where it should be. you have to take in the spikes and four pointers that are not being shot. i know 800,000 is higher than before, but it has to be higher because of the a. r. if you have a number i think we whould really like to hear it. peace.... p.s. and ulysses your idea is whacked, stop doing drugs.....