when most people even non-hunters hear cross bow they think of someone that can't pull a compound back and hold it , there for cross bow that remains cocked. i think that if an arrow is used then thats bow hunting. as far as gunners....... every city boy with a gun is in the woods and that week or ten days is the only time that they are in the woods. bow hunter are held to a higher standard. the thing that gets me is most hard core gunners hate bow hunters (in the woods way to early and mess up the gun hunting)