ORIGINAL: driftrider
I did not look at the Savage for that reason as it is the only available production muzzleloader that allows the use of smokeless powder and that comes with some additional problems anyway.
Are the Savages totally banned in Arizona, or just the use of smokeless powder? To be honest, even if I couldn't hunt with smokeless powder I'd still use my Savage exclusively as it is more than capable of shooting black powder subs. It's the finest ML rifle I've seen in terms of design and features as a result of being expressly designed to shoot smokeless powder. I own the 10ML-II BSS version with in stainless with the laminate stock and it's also a fine looking and feeling rifle. Very accurate too. Like I said, smokeless or not, I'd take the Savage over a Knight or T/C any day.
Forgive the digression.
Mike
Not banned just can't use smokeless powder. Arizona says must load from the muzzle must use black or synthetic black, must have single barrel and other than that almost anything goes. 209 OK, sealed breech OK, scope OK, any projectile OK. I only decided not to pursue the Savage for the initial reason that we are not able to use smokeless then another thing was the idea that I had to keep replacing some small thing in the chamber which turned me off just like the Knight use of a plastic throw away thing does. I also didn't want to give up the barrel length due to the bolt action. All of these things are my impressions but obviously the Savage is a great rifle and I would be the first to say so. Just didn't seem to fit my requirements.