o i've already shot a 7mm mag and short mag i just meant i don't want a crazy elphant rifle that will send me flying 50 feet sorry for the inconcince thank you for the info and keep reply any info is good and my uncle thinks i should get a 300 wsm but is that over kill for whitetail deer or what i can hunt with in wisconsin but two weeks ago about 15 miles from where i live some one shot a 400 pound russian boar with a 300 and it still ran 300 yards it was on the front page of the paper. because here in my part of wisconsin we have a small wild pig problem.