i got a 8 point a few years ago in north ern pa. on the third day of rifle season when i went to strech him out to dress it the right horn came off in my hand by the time i got him back to camp the other one fell off a couple of old fellows told me that it was the weather that caused that it was colder than *ell that year i was just concerned about getting in dutch about the deer having no head gear if the man wanted to talk to me.