Well, I fainally received my stained and sealed shafts the other day, spined 70/75 23/64 diameter, fletched some up last night with 4-4"fletches, actaully 4/120 fletch, and 160 grain point. don't ask me why, but I have been dieing to shoot 160 points ever since I got my Crusader from Chad. and these flew like darts, and the that big 160 grain Snuffer flew equally as well all out to 40 yards also. One more thing, the bow was quite with 480 grain wood arrow, I can't even here it now.