SilentAssassin, thats funny because I seem to recall it was YOU who started a thread a while back called "This Should Heat Things Up" or something like that, that used this same argument. You were talking about guns instead of crossbows but the argument was the same. Basically, you said you dont respect gun kills because guns are too easy to use. My point is that many people on this board feel the same way about cross bows and are allowed to express their negative opinions about cross bows and cross bow hunters as much as they wish. But when womeone tried to make the same point about bows being too easy compared to spears, somehow that argument is unacceptable on this board and the post was removed. The only point I was trying to make is if its OK to look down on another hunter for his choice of weapons, everyone, including bow hunters, should be subjected to same criticism from others who use more "difficult" weapons. Where does it stop?