Well the wife did go for the cheaper turkey gun at wal mart. Bought the NEF turkey 12 ga. but they had to order it special so won't get it for a week or so. but now I can shot the 3 or 31/2 in shell can't wait to go pattern it. I know it not a renington or moss. but since she bought me a new muzzle loader for x mas all i could get away with lol. Like they say "one shot one kill"